<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: A Ban on Kneeling?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://dizzysound.net/blog/2006/05/31/a-ban-on-kneeling/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://dizzysound.net/blog/2006/05/31/a-ban-on-kneeling/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=rss</link>
	<description>Life, times, and musings of a seminarian &#38; family</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:56:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Christopher Gillespie</title>
		<link>http://dizzysound.net/blog/2006/05/31/a-ban-on-kneeling/comment-page-1/#comment-2519</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Gillespie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://dizzysound.net/blog/2006/05/31/a-ban-on-kneeling/#comment-2519</guid>
		<description>Oh, we can send letters to a lot of folks. There is an anti-historical sentiment within the protestantism that also drives me nuts. For some reason, tradition is bad and reform is good. They say, &quot;All bets are off and nothing which has been done before is worth saving.&quot;

On the other hand, I can&#039;t remember who I read but they referred to the anti-rite sentiment as liturgical minimalism. We eschew all that is useful in the name of bare-bones. We missed the point that Luther (and others) thought those rites useful even if unnecessary. I found this to be true with studying the baptism rites. Luther kept them the same, then reformed them to make them clearer for his time and place. I didn&#039;t cover later Luther but he actually returned to favor some of the more medieval inventions like the blowing in the ears and multiple exorcisms. Regardless, he was a high liturgical guy and the not the minimalist he is played out to be. 

Indeed as I think Pr. Stiegemeyer points out, Luther came out of hiding in part to stop the destruction of the statues, crosses, and the like.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, we can send letters to a lot of folks. There is an anti-historical sentiment within the protestantism that also drives me nuts. For some reason, tradition is bad and reform is good. They say, &#8220;All bets are off and nothing which has been done before is worth saving.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the other hand, I can&#8217;t remember who I read but they referred to the anti-rite sentiment as liturgical minimalism. We eschew all that is useful in the name of bare-bones. We missed the point that Luther (and others) thought those rites useful even if unnecessary. I found this to be true with studying the baptism rites. Luther kept them the same, then reformed them to make them clearer for his time and place. I didn&#8217;t cover later Luther but he actually returned to favor some of the more medieval inventions like the blowing in the ears and multiple exorcisms. Regardless, he was a high liturgical guy and the not the minimalist he is played out to be. </p>
<p>Indeed as I think Pr. Stiegemeyer points out, Luther came out of hiding in part to stop the destruction of the statues, crosses, and the like.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ghp</title>
		<link>http://dizzysound.net/blog/2006/05/31/a-ban-on-kneeling/comment-page-1/#comment-2512</link>
		<dc:creator>ghp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://dizzysound.net/blog/2006/05/31/a-ban-on-kneeling/#comment-2512</guid>
		<description>No fair -- you tied together two things that &lt;b&gt;*I*&lt;/b&gt; was going to blog about! ;^)

This anti-Rome streak that is encountered so often is, I think, part and parcel with the overexposure that Confessional Lutheranism has had to &quot;Reformed&quot; American Evangelicalism/Pietism. Granted, it certainly goes back to the very start of the Reformation (we &lt;b&gt;must&lt;/b&gt; remember to send Karlstadt a nice thank-you card for being just about the first &quot;lutheran&quot; to start getting that wrong, don&#039;tcha think?

I grew up, and was confirmed, in a church with kneelers, but I haven&#039;t belonged to a congregation that had them in nigh on 20 years -- and I miss them. I also find it very meaningful to cross myself, although that is something I didn&#039;t learn to do until about 4 years ago...

Nice post (among the flurry you just sent out into the blogosphere, my good seminarian!). ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No fair &#8212; you tied together two things that <b>*I*</b> was going to blog about! ;^)</p>
<p>This anti-Rome streak that is encountered so often is, I think, part and parcel with the overexposure that Confessional Lutheranism has had to &#8220;Reformed&#8221; American Evangelicalism/Pietism. Granted, it certainly goes back to the very start of the Reformation (we <b>must</b> remember to send Karlstadt a nice thank-you card for being just about the first &#8220;lutheran&#8221; to start getting that wrong, don&#8217;tcha think?</p>
<p>I grew up, and was confirmed, in a church with kneelers, but I haven&#8217;t belonged to a congregation that had them in nigh on 20 years &#8212; and I miss them. I also find it very meaningful to cross myself, although that is something I didn&#8217;t learn to do until about 4 years ago&#8230;</p>
<p>Nice post (among the flurry you just sent out into the blogosphere, my good seminarian!). ;^)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
